Poster #1 gives an example of Poster #2 trying to deceive forum members (not "accused" him of but giving examples of) by not counting his plays that lost. And boasting about wins he never posted.
Poster #2 replies, hurling personal insults and name calling.
I don't need to look at any other posts to see who is telling the truth (because when you can't challenge facts you resort to personal attacks to deflect) but I take a few minutes to check, and I what do I find?
Poster #1 is correct. Poster #2 cheats.
Which is why he regularly comes under attack from different posters (no, not aliases; "aliases" is just another attempt at deflection, same as calling them "haters" and the even more ridiculous "jealous", as if he's anyone to be jealous of.)
The back and forth Dramarama (very underrated band) begins and quickly devolves into both posters stooping to personal attacks and childish name calling, bringing the forum maturity plane down to eighth grade level.
BOTH parties are now guilty of polluting the forum.
Finally, one of the Rx Referees steps in and delivers a mandate - "Both of you - back to your corners and knock it off!"
I wanted to drop in with a suggestion but haven't made time for it until now.
Telling them both to knock it off only ensures it will start up again in a few days (que' no?)
Just spitballin' here but, instead of putting a temporary stop to the problem - how about fixing it?
Fix the root of the problem - if Poster #2 isn't cheating none of this happens.
Allowing cheating to go unchecked is encouraging the behavior to continue, which is why it does continue.
Don't treat them both equally - punish the guy trying to deceive forum members, the cheater, the guy who habitually go into other poster's threads and takes cheap shots (despite Fanboyzs proclaiming his innocence) then, when others fire back, runs whining to the mods, like a little girl ("Mommy, mommy, make the bad man stop. His words - they hurt me!") proving he possesses less than zero self awareness, and believes rules are for others but not for him.
Posters who point out cheaters do a service to members who tail other's picks by warning them the guys they may be thinking about tailing based on their "record" are posting inaccurate records, so proceed with caution and do your own research.
Guys who cheat on their records are doing a disservice to members.
They're not really interested in helping forum members, it's just a ruse they use to help themselves by trolling for posters who are losing and desperate, ones they can stealth solicit via private msgs to pay for them for picks.
Or, even worse, and sadder - they're not touts, they're cheating in hopes of getting "respect" and attention from total strangers on the internet.
Give a timeout to the guys who are proven to be cheaters. If they become repeat offenders - ban them.
And if anyone accuses another poster of cheating w/out proof, and/or is just name calling - same thing, one warning then ban.
Yes, if you do this, some posters will complain. They don't care about forum rules, they're okay with the drama, they're okay with touts cheating on their records, as long as someone gives them a few winners.
But without rules you have chaos. And stunted growth.
And you lose posters.
I see members here claim that good posters have left. Honest 'cappers who don't want to contribute due to the cheaters and the nonsense that follows them around. I can't speak for those but I can say for a fact - I know of posters who would contribute picks if the BS is cleaned up (including one who will today.)
Quality breeds quantity.
I see the mods are catching heat from unhappy Fanboyz, for doing a cleanup.
I offer the opposite - I want to let you know it is, for many posters (most I would guess), much appreciated.
More, please.
Thank you.
Poster #2 replies, hurling personal insults and name calling.
I don't need to look at any other posts to see who is telling the truth (because when you can't challenge facts you resort to personal attacks to deflect) but I take a few minutes to check, and I what do I find?
Poster #1 is correct. Poster #2 cheats.
Which is why he regularly comes under attack from different posters (no, not aliases; "aliases" is just another attempt at deflection, same as calling them "haters" and the even more ridiculous "jealous", as if he's anyone to be jealous of.)
The back and forth Dramarama (very underrated band) begins and quickly devolves into both posters stooping to personal attacks and childish name calling, bringing the forum maturity plane down to eighth grade level.
BOTH parties are now guilty of polluting the forum.
Finally, one of the Rx Referees steps in and delivers a mandate - "Both of you - back to your corners and knock it off!"
I wanted to drop in with a suggestion but haven't made time for it until now.
Telling them both to knock it off only ensures it will start up again in a few days (que' no?)
Just spitballin' here but, instead of putting a temporary stop to the problem - how about fixing it?
Fix the root of the problem - if Poster #2 isn't cheating none of this happens.
Allowing cheating to go unchecked is encouraging the behavior to continue, which is why it does continue.
Don't treat them both equally - punish the guy trying to deceive forum members, the cheater, the guy who habitually go into other poster's threads and takes cheap shots (despite Fanboyzs proclaiming his innocence) then, when others fire back, runs whining to the mods, like a little girl ("Mommy, mommy, make the bad man stop. His words - they hurt me!") proving he possesses less than zero self awareness, and believes rules are for others but not for him.
Posters who point out cheaters do a service to members who tail other's picks by warning them the guys they may be thinking about tailing based on their "record" are posting inaccurate records, so proceed with caution and do your own research.
Guys who cheat on their records are doing a disservice to members.
They're not really interested in helping forum members, it's just a ruse they use to help themselves by trolling for posters who are losing and desperate, ones they can stealth solicit via private msgs to pay for them for picks.
Or, even worse, and sadder - they're not touts, they're cheating in hopes of getting "respect" and attention from total strangers on the internet.
Give a timeout to the guys who are proven to be cheaters. If they become repeat offenders - ban them.
And if anyone accuses another poster of cheating w/out proof, and/or is just name calling - same thing, one warning then ban.
Yes, if you do this, some posters will complain. They don't care about forum rules, they're okay with the drama, they're okay with touts cheating on their records, as long as someone gives them a few winners.
But without rules you have chaos. And stunted growth.
And you lose posters.
I see members here claim that good posters have left. Honest 'cappers who don't want to contribute due to the cheaters and the nonsense that follows them around. I can't speak for those but I can say for a fact - I know of posters who would contribute picks if the BS is cleaned up (including one who will today.)
Quality breeds quantity.
I see the mods are catching heat from unhappy Fanboyz, for doing a cleanup.
I offer the opposite - I want to let you know it is, for many posters (most I would guess), much appreciated.
More, please.
Thank you.
